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lupus83
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Delem 720kb problem

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Hi

I bought "SD Floppy Emulator Rev F BLACK" from Lotharek page, software 1.7.2.
With an old computer 486 (motherboard KM-S4-1) works when floppy in bios is set to 1,44.
When I set in bios value 720kb, I got message "floppy disk fail 40", ofcourse cfg file is set to IBMPC720, IDA1, ribbon twisted.

I have original floppy citizen osdc-29c and everything works correct on computer and cnc.
The main problem is, that SD Floppy emulator doesn't work in Trumabend with system Delem DA-58. This CNC needs floppy 720kB, and with installed citizen works great. With plugged emulator I have message "format fehler".

I'm sure if I enforce SD emulator to work with old computer 486 in option 720kB, it will work with Delem.
Any ideas, sugestion?

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lupus83 wrote:Hi

I bought "SD Floppy Emulator Rev F BLACK" from Lotharek page, software 1.7.2.
With an old computer 486 (motherboard KM-S4-1) works when floppy in bios is set to 1,44.
When I set in bios value 720kb, I got message "floppy disk fail 40", ofcourse cfg file is set to IBMPC720, IDA1, ribbon twisted.

I have original floppy citizen osdc-29c and everything works correct on computer and cnc.
The main problem is, that SD Floppy emulator doesn't work in Trumabend with system Delem DA-58. This CNC needs floppy 720kB, and with installed citizen works great. With plugged emulator I have message "format fehler".

I'm sure if I enforce SD emulator to work with old computer 486 in option 720kB, it will work with Delem.
Any ideas, sugestion?

Regards
First please update your firmware :
(v1.8.2.30)
https://hxc2001.com/download/floppy_driv ... rmware.zip

and try to reformat your image again with the machine.

also : please give me the exact model of the floppy disk drive used into this machine and the jumper setting of this disk drive (a picture please).

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Re: Delem 720kb problem

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Firmware already updated, nothing changed.
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Did the emulator reacting when you try to access it ?

I think that you should change the switch setting to ID0 on the CNC machine, with the Shugart mode activated.
You can change this last setting directly in the embedded menu (remove the sd and press the middle button to access it).

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1. ID0 is set to ON.
2. Shugart is activated
3. When cnc is starting, the right side red LED is ON for a few seconds
4. I choice disk image 720, raw or another. Left side LED is ON
5. Then I select on the machine "prepare disk" and enter, after that left side LED starts barely blinking. At the lcd is still the same text.
6. 5 seconds and I got message "format fehler".
7. When I repeat step 5, left side LED is ON, nothing happend, except instant "format fehler".

Delem software is from the year 1988, it's starting from EPROM. Ribbon in the CNC is straight.

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Please send me the HFE file after the format try by email :
Email : https://hxc2001.com/contactus/

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lupus83 wrote: Hi

Operators on press brake Delem are happy. [...]

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Lupus83
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Showroom :

https://hxc2001.com/showroom/HxC_Floppy_ ... _unit.html

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Re: Delem 720kb problem

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hello,

I bought the same HXC drive to replace the old mitsubishi MF353C-252M (720K DRIVER).

what firmware should I update to make it work with DELEM DA58? :roll:

THANKS.

Fernando

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FlashPT wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:36 pm
hello,

I bought the same HXC drive to replace the old mitsubishi MF353C-252M (720K DRIVER).

what firmware should I update to make it work with DELEM DA58? :roll:

THANKS.

Fernando
Hello,

First you need to update the firmware :

To get the latest firmware (in the "Beta_Firmware" folder) :
https://hxc2001.com/download/floppy_dri ... rmware.zip

Update procedure video (second video) :
https://hxc2001.com/showroom/HxC_Floppy_ ... Demos.html

The files to copy to the SD Card with the new CFG file to use :
https://hxc2001.com/download/floppy_dri ... SD_HXC.zip

Regarding the drive switches, the ID3-B(8) switch must be set and the ID1-A (2) switch must be set.
You also need to connect the pin 12 of the floppy connector to the ground. See attached picture :
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Best Regards,
Jean-François DEL NERO

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Re: Delem 720kb problem

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HELLLO, Jeff

thanks.

It works perfect.

Better than new!!! :D

In Portuguese ( Obrigado)! :lol:

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Re: Delem 720kb problem

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Hi!
I have the same problem witht Delem DA58 like a lupus83.
What i need to do? Can U write me step by step what i should to do? The machine is AMADA PROMECAM

When I used beta firmware and set the jumper 2 and 8. Copy file to SD "The files to copy to the SD Card with the new CFG file to use :
https://hxc2001.com/download/floppy_dri ... SD_HXC.zip"
Pin 12 solder to the ground. In menu i set "drive B" is ON.
then on the machine a have info write/read disk failure.

Pls I need help.

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