SD version - dual layer board 85mm * 96 mm

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Looks great! Question is when are they availible to buy?

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Usually some guys are going to start a batch order for the parts and PCBs, and you are facing some funny hours assembling it by yourself.
Thats what we at forum64.de did for the USB-Version (but i was kind enough to solder the SMD-parts...)

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That's why the gods invented solder paste. :D

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blackpanther wrote:Looks great! Question is when are they availible to buy?
When it's done...and with every board comes a copy of Duke Nukem Forever! :)
.....just kidding...

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CrazyIcecap wrote:
blackpanther wrote:Looks great! Question is when are they availible to buy?
When it's done...and with every board comes a copy of Duke Nukem Forever! :)
.....just kidding...

This version will not be available for free (at least at the beginning), but made and sold by lotharek:
Devices will be fully assembled and tested. Prices will be something around 60-65euro (this price could change later).
http://www.mmj.pl/~lotharek/atari/

More informations soon...

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@Jeff: I consider this bad news, if that means, that you do not release the pcb and firmware for all to use for free.

Peter

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petersieg wrote:@Jeff: I consider this bad news
+1

65 euro is way too much. That's a great way to kill such a brilliant project :(

-Charlie

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Sir Morris wrote:
petersieg wrote:@Jeff: I consider this bad news
+1

65 euro is way too much. That's a great way to kill such a brilliant project :(

-Charlie
Ouch, agreed that is way too much. Shame the project was killed by this decision

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Sir Morris wrote:
petersieg wrote:@Jeff: I consider this bad news
+1

65 euro is way too much. That's a great way to kill such a brilliant project :(

-Charlie

Seriously, but 65e is ok, the usb version was at 80euro and at least ~100 units have been sold at this price without problem, and i don’t think you could make the device at a much lower price.

After some bad experiences with the “full free” mode (project cloned, copyright removed/changed in sources, etc), i don't plan anymore to release pcb, binary and sources for free... I think i have made a big mistake in this project: released the sources/pcb of the prototype. I don’t want that someone else make money with my work without agreement.

The other point is that the project need a true production line, able to deliver a working device. I am a little tired to “debug” badly soldered boards through the forum. If we cannot deliver a true device (and not only a schematic and a binary), I consider the project like already dead since most of potential users are not able to make it (equipment/time/cost problems…).

And if the project is “so brilliant”, i don’t think it will die with this “new” business model ;-)
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mimo wrote:
Sir Morris wrote:
petersieg wrote:@Jeff: I consider this bad news
+1

65 euro is way too much. That's a great way to kill such a brilliant project :(

-Charlie
Ouch, agreed that is way too much. Shame the project was killed by this decision
On the contrary, the project is more alive than anytime. ;-)

(And many others people are ready to pay 65e or more this device)

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@Jeff: That someone offers ready to run devices at 65€ doesn't hurt me! But the decision that this is no longer an open and free project does! It wish you
all the best for the future, but I am out now for this project and I will concentrate on other free projects..

Thanks anyway for your excellent work!

All the best,
Peter

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petersieg wrote:@Jeff: That someone offers ready to run devices at 65€ doesn't hurt me! But the decision that this is no longer an open and free project does!
The sdcard version of the floppy emulator have been free since at least 2 years now, and this doesn't bring anything. Most of people don't care about the "free" status of the project.

If i want to keep the project alive, or at least bring me some little advantage, i need to protect it. (i hope it's not too late...).

Making board is a risky and costly job, and i don't want that someone else become a competitor by making the same board (my board...).

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Post by lolafg »

:D Well , I'd like to buy one when it'll be ready , i hope i won't miss the train !!
As i said in an other site , this project is fantastic ,thank Jeff !!

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Post by fluxin »

Jeff,
Could you contact me at the email I have listed on the forum? I would like to talk to you about the new version of the board. Thanks!

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fluxin wrote:Jeff,
Could you contact me at the email I have listed on the forum? I would like to talk to you about the new version of the board. Thanks!
If you want talk about the pcb , i think you are in the right thread.

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